Two weeks ago, ASUS invited us for an exclusive look at their upcoming range of motherboards based on the P67 chipset.
The impending release of new hardware always makes for an exciting time filled with hype and anticipation. And when it concerns a brand new chipset from the Intel camp, any news provides ammunition to the raging AMD/Intel debates on the battlegrounds we know as internet forums. Our topic of interest today is Intel’s upcoming Sandy Bridge platform. It represents the “Tock” in their “Tick-Tock” strategy meaning that the chipset is a whole new micro-architecture as opposed to a mere die shrink. Nonetheless, it will utilise the relatively new 32nm manufacturing process we first saw with Westmere. The Sandy Bridge CPU architecture will cover several motherboard chipsets aimed at different markets, P67 being the mainstream segment. Since a lot of the information regarding the actual architecture is still under closed doors, we will instead have an exclusive look at the P67 motherboards ASUS are readying for the release of the Sandy Bridge CPUs in January. The P67 chipset, code name Cougar Point, will use Intel’s new LGA1155 socket.
ASUS need no introduction and over the past year, we have seen some fantastic products from them across different platforms, ranging from entry level boards to the truly enthusiast ones such as the Rampage III Extreme. One thing that all their boards have in common is the sheer number of features ASUS manage to pack in them to deliver superior user friendliness and overclockability over their competitors. In that sense, they have been at the forefront of innovation and the seminar gave us a further insight into the unique features they will be bundling on their P67 motherboards. These include their evolution of the EPU+TPU implementation now dubbed their second generation Dual Intelligent Processor (DIP for short), DIGI+ VRM for improved overclockability, BT GO and the long awaited successor to the traditional BIOS, Unified Extensible Firmware Interface or UEFI for short. As well as a brief look of those features, I also have some exclusive pictures of the motherboards in store but more on that over the next few pages.
A bit about ASUS:
ASUS comes from the last four letters of Pegasus, the winged horse in Greek mythology that represents the inspiration of art and learning. ASUS embodies the strength, creative spirit and purity symbolized by this regal and agile mythical creature, soaring to new heights of quality and innovation with each product it introduces to the market.
ASUS pursues technological and aesthetic perfection through continuous innovation. We place ourselves in our customers’ shoes to develop a deep understanding of, and genuine empathy for, their needs—enabling us to create user experiences that transcend the norm.
ASUS Design Philosophy
ASUS Design develops high-quality solutions our customers will enjoy. Our design process is built on thorough research, early anticipation and well-planned execution.
We act with a global vision and a focus on local strengths, conditions and heritage.
ASUS comes from the last four letters of Pegasus, the winged horse in Greek mythology that represents the inspiration of art and learning. ASUS embodies the strength, creative spirit and purity symbolized by this regal and agile mythical creature, soaring to new heights of quality and innovation with each product it introduces to the market.
ASUS pursues technological and aesthetic perfection through continuous innovation. We place ourselves in our customers’ shoes to develop a deep understanding of, and genuine empathy for, their needs—enabling us to create user experiences that transcend the norm.
ASUS Design Philosophy
ASUS Design develops high-quality solutions our customers will enjoy. Our design process is built on thorough research, early anticipation and well-planned execution.
We act with a global vision and a focus on local strengths, conditions and heritage.
Did someone say ROG…
Let’s see what ASUS have been hiding away from us for so long.
ASUS P8P67/Deluxe
ASUS’s motherboards are segmented into three categories; Premium Deluxe which covers their ROG and Deluxe branded boards, mainstream, and value. The P8P67 falls under the mainstream category whilst the ‘Deluxe’ variant will be their higher end offering, not dissimilar to their current naming scheme amongst their Intel motherboard line up. Both motherboards will end up sporting very similar feature sets so let’s see what we can expect from them.
Dual Intelligent Processors II
ASUS have been very vocal about their two unique on board processors that they have named TPU and EPU. They have now brought the two together and named the concept ‘Dual Intelligent Processors II’ (DIP II for short). In our recent interview with Jack Cheng from ASUS’s motherboard interview, he mentioned that TPU is a highly customizable micro-processor targeted at performance tuning through dynamic control of key variables. TPU has been integrated into their motherboards to give users easy access to performance tuning utilities that would often be daunting to first time overclockers attempting to delve into BIOS. There are several ways users can use the benefits of the chip to gain extra performance. The first is through auto-tuning, which when selected will let the motherboard intelligently overclock the CPU, RAM, and iGPU, stress testing to make sure everything is stable. This can either be done in Windows using the TurboV EVO application or via an on-board switch for users that hate the thought of installing bundled motherboard software.
The P8P67 Deluxe motherboard. The Deluxe has extra on-board power and reset switches and a diagnostic debug LED to display error codes. The hub shown on the side is a front panel box with 2 USB3.0 ports supported by a second on-board NEC controller chip.
ASUS TPU
TurboV is something we have encountered a number of times in previous reviews. It’s a Windows based utility that provides a comprehensive list of voltage and clock settings akin to what we normally find in BIOS. The key advantage of the utility is that changes are made in real time so users don’t even have to enter BIOS. The EVO version is superior in that changes are applied to BIOS in real time and will therefore be saved on reboot. My assumption is that the P8P67P board will be bundled with the regular TurboV application and the EVO will be reserved to the Deluxe. Throughout our reviews, we have seen the ASUS software suite gradually improving into a unified tool. Initially, Turbo V EVO, AI Expert, AI Suite and Fan Expert were separate utilities with different functionalities but in the Rampage III Formula Review, we saw that ASUS had made tremendous progress in incorporating all these features into one easy to use software, AI SUITE II. Their upcoming P67 motherboards will bundle their most up to date rendition of the application, amalgamating all the above utilities into an easily manageable suite. Another addition to the suite is power management, brought by the on-board EPU chip.
The P8P67 Deluxe carries on the same blue theme from the P6X5
-E but the concept design applied to the heatsinks is now in the shape of waves as opposed to crystals. The board also uses a 16 digital Phase power circuitry that is cooled by the wave shaped aluminium heatsink and single heat pipe. USB3.0 support on the back panel still requires an additional NEC chip.ASUS EPU
Shifting our attention to power management and efficiency, ASUS implement their EPU microprocessor for real time energy saving. Again, this is something we have previously covered but continuing on their trend, they have improved both its functionality and the Windows interface. EPU optimises power efficiency by dynamically or manually regulating voltages and CPU speeds based on the load applied. Marketed as a complete solution, it can control the GPU/iGPU/Fan/HDD/DRAM and chipset. An additional feature which stems from Fan Expert is EPU’s ability to reduce fan speeds automatically under idle conditions, promising quieter operation. Enabling EPU can be achieved in two ways, either by using the bundled software or by using an on-board switch, bypassing the need for the Windows utility.
The P8P67 Deluxe has 3 PCIex16 slots with the top one operating at 16x link width and the other two limited to 8x. The four RAM slots support dual channel memory and higher frequencies than current P55 based motherboards. The P67 PCH supports 2 SATA 6bps ports and 4 SATA 3Gbps ports natively. The other two will most likely be SATA 6Gbps ports based on the Marvell chipset.
EPU+TPU under the DIP II moniker have evolved on the P67 platform to provide more functionality and ease of use, hence ASUS’s motive to name it as the Dual Intelligent Processors II. In addition to those two chips, another microprocessor has been integrated to give users control over the VRMs, a unique innovation not seen on current ASUS motherboards.
ASUS P8P67/Deluxe (Continued)
DIGI+ VRM
Many overclockers will be familiar with voltage tweaking and adjusting clock speeds on their motherboards to get the most out of their CPU. Whilst the benefits of better performance have always be a yearning of overclockers around the world, they are often also met with instability and lower power efficiency. In response to the growing emphasis of lower power consumption and efficiency, ASUS have developed the DIGI+ VRM, a programmable microprocessor capable of intelligently managing the motherboards’ power circuitry to reduce power transfer loss and thereby improving stability. A similar concept was first introduced on the Rampage III Extreme by the name of Extreme Engine Digi+ which allowed the board to operate at a lower switching frequency to minimize power usage whilst still maintaining high overclocking headroom. Now, ASUS have decided to share the technology on their P8P67 line of motherboards.
Typically, any clock adjustments made are made using the clock generator which then affects the CPU through the base clock. The CPU Spread Spectrum then acts to stabilise frequencies if enabled. DIGI+ VRM is unique in that it implements a spread spectrum in the Vcore area to stabilise the voltages attributed to the core, PCIe bus and other parts of the VRM circuitry. It can also adjust the VRM frequency intelligently based on load to improve power efficiency. Similarly, the microprocessor will detect hot VRM areas and activate cooling accordingly. I’m unsure how cooling can be activated on the passive heatsinks but more will become clear on release. The main benefit of DIGI+ VRM is higher system stability and lower EMI radiation. Stability is achieved by using a switching frequency of 300kHz and it can be increased to 500kHz for improved overclocking range. For more precise adjustments to the VRM power management, users will have all the options available to tweak in BIOS or in the Windows.
The regular P8P67 is a cut down version of the Deluxe. The main differences are the missing on-board switches and a missing heatsink below the CPU area. Notice how the motherboard doesn’t have a Northbridge chipset and instead uses the area for the VRM circuitry.
DIGI+ VRM has its own Windows application for user friendly power management and tweaking. The application allows for several parameters to be altered; DIGI+ VRM Load-Line Calibration, CPU Current Capability, DIGI+ VRM Frequency, Phase Control and Duty Control. Load-Line calibration can be adjusted between regular and extreme using a slider to reduce the voltage drop on the CPU when it’s under load. This is highly useful when overclocking to prevent large voltage fluctuations. The next tab in the application allows users to manage the current going to the CPU giving an extra 40% overhead. The DIGI+ VRM frequency tab can be used to enable Spread Spectrum, thereby unlocking the ability to change the VRM frequency, as the name suggests. By default, it is set to 300kHz and it can be changed to as high as 500kHz, where the time delay decreases for increased overclocking headroom. Phase control is very similar to Gigabyte’s Dynamic Energy Saver 2 feature in that the number of active phases on the VRMs change based on the CPU load. Selecting manual adjustment opens up Standard, Optimised and Extreme mode, the latter unlocking all phases. DIGI+ VRM Duty Control is a very unique feature that adjusts cooling to the VRM circuitry based on the temperature when the ‘T-Probe’ option is chosen. Extreme mode here balances the Current to the CPU for efficient power management. The application itself has a very intuitive GUI and option boxes that highlight with the hover of the cursor. Users, whether they be enthusiasts or new users, will no doubt get the hang of it very quickly, adhering to ASUS’s ‘Ease of use’ philosophy.
The P8P67 uses the same blue theme and wave concept. Another difference with the Deluxe is the lack of a third PCIe x16 slot which has been replaced with a PCI slot. The ASUS logo isn’t emblazoned on the Southbridge heatsink, no doubt a cost cutting measure. The phase power design looks reduced from 16 to 12.
BT GO
When I was first introduced to RC TweakIt software bundled with the Extreme variants of the ROG motherboards, I had nothing but praise for it. My only complaint was that it was reserved to those boards for overclocking purposes despite the potential for a similar concept to be used for media purposes on more mainstream motherboards. Quoting my conclusion of RC TweakIt on the Maximus III Extreme review, I wrote; “ASUS have put a lot of thought into the concept and I hope we see it become more mainstream in the future…” and it appears that ASUS have listened to our prayers. The new addition, known as BT GO incorporates a Bluetooth dongle on the P8P67 and P8P67 Deluxe motherboards. This time, functionality has increased to more than just overclocking purposes. To make the most of the feature, users with Symbian/Microsoft Mobile/Android equipped phones can connect to their PCs remotely via Bluetooth. Unlike previous renditions of RC TweakIt, iPhones will also be supported from launch.
BT GO enables three functions; ‘File Sharing’ through which the phone can be synchronised and backed up to the PC, ‘Remote Control’ allowing the phone to control Windows Media Player on the PC or overclock through the BT Turbo Remote utility, and finally for ‘Life Entertainment’. The latter is useful in that it allows personal data on the phone to be synchronised with the PC, such as personal contacts or calendars. Furthermore, users can gain access to the internet by simply using the 3G signal on their phones, all that across the Bluetooth connection. BT Turbo remote is akin to RC TweakIt in that it allows voltages and clocks to be monitored or tweaked remotely. The main difference is that RC TweakIt does the whole process through the iROG chip on such motherboards to alleviate latency issues and to reduce CPU loads during intense overclocking sessions. BT GO acts through the CPU and thus produces a small load. While that isn’t an issue for mundane media tasks, it can affect benchmarking sessions at high clock speeds.
ASUS Maximus IV Extreme (ROG)
ASUS’s line-up wouldn’t be complete without their flagship Republic Of Gamers boards ruling the roost. Avid Vortez viewers will be familiar with the range of ROG branded motherboards we have tested here so you will no doubt know that they represent the most premium ASUS motherboards in both price and performance. The ROG brand is sub-divided into three categories; Extreme (targeting overclockers), Formula (targeting gamers), and GENE (targeting LAN party gamers). The board on display today is the Maximus IV Extreme, representing their flagship board on the P67 line-up.
The Maximus IV Extreme follows the trend of previous ROG Extreme and packs all the features we have been accustomed to seeing including ASUS Probelt, EZPlug, LN2 mode, RC Bluetooth, Extreme Engi DIGI+, ROG Connect, PCIe x16 lane switch and a vast range of new additional features. The red and black theme has been kept to differentiate the line-up from the mainstream but the heatsink theme is now ‘Star Trek’, representing ASUS’s “Design for Future” concept.
The motherboard contains a lot of features that we have previously covered in great depth so this section will focus mostly on their new innovations. The Maximus sports 4 PCIe x16 slots, 2 PCIe x1 slots and one PCIe x4 slot. The absence of a PCI slot is down to ASUS getting rid of legacy ports. For this reason, there is only support for USB 3.0 ports on the I/O panel, through 2 NEC controller chips. Typically each chip provides support for 2 USB 3.0 ports but ASUS have opted for a controller hub for a total of 8 USB 2.0ports. The Maximus IV Extreme will be 12 inches x 10.6 inches (30.5 cm x 26.9 cm), 1 inch wider to accommodate the features surrounding the 24 pin ATX motherboard connector. The board will still use standard ATX mounting holes so it should be compatible with most ATX cases.
Brand new ROG features that we can expect on the Maximus IV Extreme are GPU TweakIt, GPU/ DIMM post, ROG iDirect and ROG BIOS Print. Those who have read previous ROG motherboard reviews will know that they sport an extra USB port at the back for ROG Connect. By simply connecting the bundled cable from the port to a Windows based laptop, the RC TweakIt software can be used to remotely overclock or monitor the motherboard. ASUS have now expanded on its functionality by adding GPU support so users can overvolt/overclock their GPUs remotely as long as they are on the supported vendor’s list. Fan control functionality will come over time. Another method of overclocking is of course by running RC TweakIt on a compatible phone via Bluetooth. The advantage of the Bluetooth module over the dongle solution is that it passes through the iROG microprocessor, thereby not creating a load on the CPU itself when overclocking. This is ideal in extreme benchmarking sessions where a small load spike can cause instability. One complaint on release was the lack of iPhone support… but brace yourselves because it’s finally coming! And because iPhone owners are inherently “special”, the feature had to be given its own name, ROG iDirect. If that wasn’t enough, the iPad will be fully supported as well. The previous lack of support is because Apple limited Bluetooth control on their hardware so extra software was needed to tackle the problem. The disadvantage compared to using other phones is that running RC TweakIt will create a 1% load on the CPU. The utility will be available through the App store.
GPU/DIMM post is a new ROG feature which, as the name implies, detects whether the graphics card and memory modules are operating in BIOS. In conjunction, the board has PCIe x16 lane switches that can turn off/on to identify faulty graphics cards.
The heatsinks on the Maximus IV Extreme doesn’t look as robust as that found on the Rampage III Extreme of Crosshair IV Extreme but it’s probably due to the lack of necessity. The ‘Star Trek’ design concept utilises a multi-layer structured fin array and a curved red aluminium strip on the MOSFET heatsink.
Extreme Engi DIGI+
The Maximus IV Extreme features the Extreme Engine DIGI+ VRM circuitry, a hybrid digital and analog VRM design for lower switching delay and better accuracy. Unlike the DIGI+ VRM on the mainstream board, the switching frequency can range from 250-1000 kHz for improved stability at the lower end and improved overclocking headroom at the upper end. The board delivers 8-phase power to the CPU as indicated by the 8 alloy chokes which can maintain inductance at 40A unlike standard ferrite chokes. ASUS also claim that the FET+ in metal packaging offers 1.3x faster heat dissipation, 40%+ better conductivity. Lastly, we can also see the use of a NEC Proadlizer, first seen on the Gigabyte SOC graphics cards. The capacitors provide current capacity of up to 5000microFarads and extremely low ESL/ESR for super overclocking ability. Low noise ensures stable power delivery without voltage spikes.
The Maximus IV Extreme has 4 PCIe x16 slots but the lane configuration is still unknown. It is very likely that an NF200 chip has been integrated for more PCIe lanes. The PCH is cooled by a low profile heatsink and to the right are 8 SATA ports, 4 of which are 6Gbps based on the colour. Two of those are natively supported through the chipset whilst the other 2 are likely to be from a Marvell controller.
ROG Thunderbolt
ASUS are working on a new project currently codenamed ROG Thunderbolt, which incorporates two of their least talked about features, ROG Gamefirst and their on-board sound solution. The primary target is gamers who want good sound quality in game and lower latencies for the best gaming experience out of the box. This is achieved through the network processing unit, which can regulate packets and latencies based on usage, and the sound card, most likely a VIA or Realtek chip using the X-Fi Codecs.
On the I/O panel are 8 USB 3.0 ports, 2 e-SATA ports, 1 PS/2 port, dual Gigabit LAN ports, 8 Channel audio, an optical S/PDIF Out port, an ROG Connect port & switch, a clear CMOS button and RC Bluetooth module. The ROG Connect button also doubles up as the USB BIOS flashback button where users can simply plug in a memory stick containing the BIOS ROM and press the button to proceed with flashing.
In the area surrounding the 24 pin ATX motherboard connector, we can see a Start/Reset button , the Probelt probe points for voltage readout using a multi-meter, the PCIe x16 lane switches, the Go Button to load up BIOS profiles instantaneously, the Q-LEDs and a Debug LCD. For more details on the individual features, check our previous coverage here.
ASUS P67 Sabertooth (TUF)
The ASUS TUF branding is a new series of motherboards first introduced on the P55 chipset and represents their professional solution. As the name suggests, the series offers tough (see what they did there… those clever ASUS marketing people…), stable, reliable and durable products to meet the demands of professionals who require the most robust motherboards to cope with harsh operating conditions. ‘The Ultimate Force’ (TUF) series slots between the mainstream and premium segments, delivering high quality components and performance at a mid-range price point. Where it does fall short is in its feature set, which isn’t as rich as those offered on ASUS’s other boards. Considering the target market and user demand for substance over style, the TUF series is an excellent compromise.
The P67 Sabertooth has a very distinct style, using a military brown, green and black combination of colours to portray its rugged appeal. The ‘Tactical Vest’ is a unique feature that sets the board apart from the rest but also aids in cooling.
The Sabertooth will be making its next transition on to the P67 platform and initial observations are very promising. To cater for the harsh conditions under which it was designed to be used, the motherboard has undergone server grade reliability tests adhering to ‘Military’ standards. What it means is that the board has to handle more extreme ambient and load temperatures. To achieve this, higher grade components with higher operating temperatures and durability have been employed. Testing involves thermal shock tests during which temperatures change dramatically in short periods to fully stress the motherboard. As standard, the Sabertooth comes equipped with alloy chokes, similar to those found on the ROG boards.
TUF Tactical Vest
The ‘Tactical Vest’ is the plastic cover that covers the entirety of the motherboard apart from the ports and connectors. The purpose is for thermal protection despite its plastic construction. The vest also spans the backside of the motherboard. It has been designed to work with downdraft coolers such as the Noctua NH-C12P SE14 such that air is pushed down through the vents and shafts below the cover. Those help direct airflow away from the board in all directions. While it may not seem like an intuitive idea, it proves efficient in situations where airflow is limited inside a chassis.
Even the I/O plate is covered with the ‘Tactical Vest’ with the Sabertooth logo and name proudly displayed on top. Just below the CPU area is a small removal plate on to which a fan can be attached for additional cooling. All the relevant components and connectors poke through the vest so everything is still easily accessible.
TUF Thermal Radar
Another innovation is the TUF Thermal Radar. Nine on-board thermal sensors are situated around the board and monitor crucial component temperatures such as the CPU and RAM area. ASUS have developed an intuitive GUI so users can visualise those parameters in Windows and an integrated Fan Expert application can control fan speeds to regulate temperatures. At the moment, Thermal Radar remains a prototype but the idea is certainly a very good one.
The concept of the Sabertooth motherboard is a complex one to understand. It’s targeted towards professionals and server workstations, and certainly has the capabilities for such situations but the colour choice, and slightly gimmicky TUF marketing might repel potential buyers. We only have to look at the Sabertooth X58 to realise that it has ended up competing with the similarly priced P6X5
-E. For a true evaluation, we will have to wait till launch.UEFI
The BBC recently published an article regarding the emergence of the new Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) in 2011 as a replacement to the traditional BIOS. Many computer users questioned the validity of the article based on the claims that it would boost boot times and on previous claims that UEFI was simply not a stable system. After having experienced it personally, all I can say is that the future is here and the future looks bright.
Sure, boot times may not improve significantly since that is largely down to other factors, but UEFI is definitely a more flexible system than the now out dated BIOS. The key benefit for users is its OS like operation and intuitive GUI. UEFI also has support for mouse control and touch so its implication for multimedia is promising. Enthusiasts accustomed to BIOS will no doubt see this as a massive change and potentially dismiss the idea but the ASUS demonstrations settled our scepticism by showing us the BIOS like layout of the interface. UEFI will come standard with the entire range of ASUS P67 motherboards, marking an evolutionary step in PC usage.
Typically, the delete key opens BIOS on boot and that hasn’t changed. Instead of the regular daunting blue screen that generally strikes fear into the minds of newcomers, they will instead be greeted by a colourful OS like GUI filled with information, sliders and pictures, a drastic change if ever there was one. ASUS call this screen ‘EZ Mode’ and their motivation is clear. The CPU and motherboard details are listed at the top of the screen along with the time and language settings. Moving down are a set of bars indicating motherboard parameters such as temperatures, voltages and fan speed. Users also have the ability to configure their CPU performance from Power Saving, Normal to Extreme mode utilising the EPU+TPU micro-processors. Navigation has to be the biggest evolution here as you can see from the mouse cursor in the top right. That’s right, you can now use your beloved mouse in UEFI and not have to put up with the cumbersome task of pressing the arrow keys continuously!
Of course, EZ Mode is targeted to new users who merely want to quickly configure their PC. Going to Advanced mode, overclockers will be welcomed by a more familiar screen, albeit in a flashy disguise. Just as in BIOS, the main screen details the CPU, Motherboard and RAM information.
AI Tweaker hasn’t been discarded in UEFI and still presents users with the same vast number of options that can be configured, be it clock speed, voltages or DRAM timings. The main difference is that the GUI is more user friendly and also much more responsive than BIOS. Another unique aspect of UEFI is the ability for users to take screenshots of their settings by pressing F12 so they can share them more easily with the community. It also proves invaluable to reviewers like ourselves who are generally useless at taking photos of the BIOS screen.
The options in the Advanced menu remains the same so accustomed users will be very familiar with the layout traditionally employed on the AMI BIOS.
The Monitor tab lists a number of options which can be altered such as fan speed, and also displays various temperatures and fan speeds.
Finally, the functionality to save profiles has been retained so overclockers can rejoice (Overclocking on the P67 platform hmmm).
ASUS will not be the only ones employing UEFI into their motherboards based on early reports so it will be interesting to see how competing solutions differ.
Closing Thoughts
ASUS have some interesting concepts and ideas up their sleeves for us and their upcoming P67 motherboards will be a fitting platform to showcase their innovative prowess. For the most part, a lot of the features we have seen today are evolutions of those we have come across numerous times in previous motherboard reviews but ASUS are now looking at refining those to create a more user friendly experience. Their approach has been holistic in the sense that they have created a marriage between their hardware and software. No longer will users be limited to BIOS or UEFI in this case for tweaking. AI Suite II is the perfect solution bringing full control of DIP II to users for power management and overclocking.
Unfortunately, no information regarding the CPUs was disclosed and any information you see regarding them will be merely speculation as opposed to finalised details. Showcased at the events were the P67 motherboards and on initial look, they appear to bring the same quality we have grown to expect from previous ASUS motherboards. The new features brought to the table are DIGI+ VRM, BT GO, UEFI, DIP 2 and new ROG features on the Maximus IV Extreme. Price points haven’t been finalised but expect them to be priced in the mainstream bracket.
I would like to thanks ASUS for their invitation to the seminar.
